Basically that's where I saw the thread going.Hopefully that makes things a bit more clearer.:). Plus, this is about GD Defiler, not a trainer.If the discussion is about features that people would like to be seen in GD Defiler, and trainers are mentioned because they have a feature that people feel would be nice, then by all means discuss it.Just to re-iterate, my concern was that the thread started talking about using a trainer in the current game to modify the character file, and the devs have been clear they don't want that because it causes problems when people file bug reports on modified character files. I didn't think defiler was a trainer.Upon reading my comment, I could see how it might be construed wrongly.The point I was trying to make is that discussions with specific links to trainers had been deleted or edited, and that I didn't want this thread to get derailed for discussing those particular issues.Cheers! For all practices defiler has no distinct difference compared to a trainer, except for the 'mods' part.In TQ defiler, when you alt tabbed out of the game and edited your money or whatever, then got back in the game, you didn't have to re-log or anything, your money was simply changed, it might be a different method of achieving the means, but it had no practical difference for this use case.Its not like defiler is allowed and trainers are not, they encrypted files (and later stash files, because people started playing with them too) among other things, its clearly not welcome. The defiler (would) change the save file /binary files of the game while a trainer changes a specific part in the memory of the running game to change a value that will get saved by the game, so there is no need to go for the encryption.Thanks Elfe.
It allowed viewing character infos in the past before the encryption but not editing them.BTW: Trainers are, as storm already said, not like the defiler. The defiler (would) change the save file /binary files of the game while a trainer changes a specific part in the memory of the running game to change a value that will get saved by the game, so there is no need to go for the encryption. Not Defiler, the trainer program they were discussing.Edit: is Defiler fully functioning? Cause previous threads pointing to trainers have been deleted or edited.It allowed viewing character infos in the past before the encryption but not editing them.BTW: Trainers are, as storm already said, not like the defiler.
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